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Postby louisfemme on Thu Jan 18, 2007 4:01 am

My last lyrics post wasn't really all that serious so I thought I might show some that are actually meaningful (although I'm sure cows find 'I'm A Cow' deep).

I am a really massive fan of music, musicology, aural and harmony. I feel that lyrics are really designed to only truly have meaning if they are accompanied by music, the right chord progressions, the right melody. Otherwise, lyrics would just be poems, and the music would be irrelevant.

For example, I think the lyrics to Jerome Kern's 'All The Things You Are' from the musical 'Very Warm For May' lose a lot of their impact without the music. For an excellent rendition, check out Will Young singing it on the 'Mrs Henderson Presents' soundtrack. It is heartbreaking, beautiful.

For some really lovely, simple, pop love songs, check out the majority of the back catalogue of Crowded House (much loved Australian band that had their retirement concert on the steps of the Opera House). The way they sing about women and relationships is just fab. Great live album, too.

I am quite happy to discuss the meaning of music and lyrics forever so thank you for reading my mini lecture. The song I chose for lyric value also really needs to be listened to for the full impact - 'Just Kiss Me' by Harry Connick, Jnr. He writes great stuff, but this song at the end of his album 'Blue Light Red Light' really makes you feel like love should make you feel - really excited, happy, goosebumpy, like you want to jump around and shake your booty. The band shouts stuff as well, which is so cool. I would LOVE to play in Harry's big band, oh if only. This is also an excellent song live, on his DVD 'The New York Big Band Concert'. If you're into big band music, this DVD is just sensational - Harry is an amazing musician and has a brilliant stage presence. And his band is HOT.


JUST KISS ME: Harry Connick Jnr.

Just kiss me
And forget all about that other stuff
Kiss me
Your big red lips, I think, will be enough

Don't worry with your lipstick
I'm gonna kiss it all away
Throw away your lipstick
That ain't your color, anyway

(Band: My Lips Are Your Color
So Lips, Stick With Me!)

Ooo, when you kiss me
I've got to know just how much you miss me

Kiss me
And I'll take your lips to paradise
Kiss me
And paradise will never feel so nice

You're beautiful
You don't need all that make up
And you don't need to take up, sugar
All of your time in front of the mirror
Don't you know that you're my dear-a?
Baby, can't you see we're in love?

(trumpet solo)
(bari solo)
(muted trumpet solo)
(alto solo)
(band shout chorus)

Ooo, when you kiss me
I've got to know just how much you miss me

Kiss me
And put all the stars back in the sky
Kiss me
And maybe then you'll know the reason why
I want you
And my love's gonna haunt you
And I'm gonna flaunt you

In front of all the boys that live on my street
And they're gonna be jealous 'cause you're so sweet
Do you think I should repeat
Do you think I should repeat
Repeat
Repeat
(Band: Aw, say it, man!)

I'm in love
Love
I'm in love

I'm in love
Sweet love!!!
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Postby Zeddicus Zu'l on Thu Jan 18, 2007 7:13 pm

I have to say I'm with Electra, Donnie Darko is a really great movie.
Im a bit split here, I was gonna say "Love will tear us apart" by Joy Division.
But since one song from the soundtrack to the movie was already selected, I'd have to go with Harry Chapin's "Cats in the cradle":

A child arrived just the other day,
He came to the world in the usual way.
But there were planes to catch, and bills to pay.
He learned to walk while I was away.
And he was talking 'fore I knew it, and as he grew,
He'd say, "I'm gonna be like you, dad.
You know I'm gonna be like you."

And the cat's in the cradle and the silver spoon,
Little boy blue and the man in the moon.
"When you coming home, dad?" "I don't know when,
But we'll get together then.
You know we'll have a good time then."

My son turned ten just the other day.
He said, "Thanks for the ball, dad, come on let's play.
Can you teach me to throw?" I said, "Not today,
I got a lot to do." He said, "That's ok."
And he walked away, but his smile never dimmed,
Said, "I'm gonna be like him, yeah.
You know I'm gonna be like him."

And the cat's in the cradle and the silver spoon,
Little boy blue and the man in the moon.
"When you coming home, dad?" "I don't know when,
But we'll get together then.
You know we'll have a good time then."

Well, he came from college just the other day,
So much like a man I just had to say,
"Son, I'm proud of you. Can you sit for a while?"
He shook his head, and he said with a smile,
"What I'd really like, dad, is to borrow the car keys.
See you later. Can I have them please?"

And the cat's in the cradle and the silver spoon,
Little boy blue and the man in the moon.
"When you coming home, son?" "I don't know when,
But we'll get together then, dad.
You know we'll have a good time then."

I've long since retired and my son's moved away.
I called him up just the other day.
I said, "I'd like to see you if you don't mind."
He said, "I'd love to, dad, if I could find the time.
You see, my new job's a hassle, and the kid's got the flu,
But it's sure nice talking to you, dad.
It's been sure nice talking to you."
And as I hung up the phone, it occurred to me,
He'd grown up just like me.
My boy was just like me.

And the cat's in the cradle and the silver spoon,
Little boy blue and the man in the moon.
"When you coming home, son?" "I don't know when,
But we'll get together then, dad.
You know we'll have a good time then."
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Postby Eliim on Fri Jan 19, 2007 1:09 am

Scatman - Scatman John
(Scatting by Scatman John)

I'm the Scatman

(Scatting by Scatman John)

I'm the Scatman

(Scatting by Scatman John)

Everybody stutters one way or the other
So check out my message to you.
As a matter of fact don't let nothin' hold you back.
If the Scatman can do it so can you.

Everybody's sayin' that the Scatman stutters
But doesn't ever stutter when he sings.
But what you don't know I'm gonna tell you right now
That the stutter and the scat is the same thing.
Yo I'm the Scatman.

Where's the Scatman? I'm the Scatman.

Why should we be pleasin' all the politician heathens
Who would try to change the seasons if the could?
The state of the condition insults my intuitions
And it only makes me crazy and my heart like wood.

Everybody stutters one way or the other
So check out my message to you.
As a matter of fact don't let nothin' hold you back.
If the Scatman can do it brother so can you.
I'm the Scatman.

(Scatting by Scatman John)

Everybody stutters one way or the other
So check out my message to you.
As a matter of fact don't let nothin' hold you back.
If the Scatman can do it brother so can you.

I'm the Scatman.

I hear you all ask 'bout the meaning of scat.
Well I'm the professor and all I can tell you is
While you're still sleepin' the saints are still weepin' cause
Things you call dead haven't yet had the chance to be born.

I'm the Scatman.

(Scatting by Scatman John)

I'm the Scatman....repeat after me
It's a scoobie oobie doobie scoobie doobie melody
I'm the Scatman....repeat after me
It's a scoobie oobie doobie scoobie doobie melody
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Try not to become a man of success but a man of value. - Albert Einstein
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Postby DariusSongblade on Mon Jan 22, 2007 4:56 pm

O Fortuna
velut luna
statu variabilis,
semper crescis
aut decrescis;
vita detestabilis
nunc obdurat
et tunc curat
ludo mentis aciem,
egestatem,
potestatem
dissolvit ut glaciem.

Sors immanis
et inanis,
rota tu volubilis,
status malus,
vana salus
semper dissolubilis,
obumbrata
et velata
michi quoque niteris;
nunc per ludum
dorsum nudum
fero tui sceleris.

Sors salutis
et virtutis
michi nunc contraria,
est affectus
et defectus
semper in angaria.
Hac in hora
sine mora
corde pulsum tangite;
quod per sortem
sternit fortem,
mecum omnes plangite!
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Postby Kroz on Tue Jan 23, 2007 9:51 am

DariusSongblade wrote: O Fortuna ....


Nice! I was just listening to that here at work.
rock and roll,
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Postby Jaydub on Sat Mar 17, 2007 11:15 pm

Kiss Me, I'm Shitfaced
-Dropkick Murphys

I play in a band
We're the best in the land
We're big in both Chelsea and France
I play one mean guitar and then score at the bar
There's a line of chicks waiting for their chance
So come on now honey, I'll make you feel pretty
These other gals mean nothing to me
Let's finish these drinks and be gone for the night
'Cause I'm more than a handfull you'll see

[CHORUS:]
So kiss me I'm shitfaced
And I'll soak and I'll soil their ground
in the trousers she kissed me
And I only bought her one round

I can bench press a car
I'm an ex football star
with degrees from both harvard and yale
Girls just can't keep up
I'm a really love machine
I've had far better sex while in jail
I designed the Sears tower
I make two grand an hour
I cook the world's best duck flambe
I'll take the pick of the liter
And girls jockey for me
I don't need these lines to get laid

[CHORUS]

I'm the man of the night
A real ladies delight
See, my figure was chisled from stone
One more for the gal then I'll escort her home
Come last call, I'm never alone
I own a house on the hill with a red water bed
It puts Hugh Heffnor's mansion to shame
With girls by the pool and italian sports cars
I'm just here in this dump for the game

[CHORUS x2]

Ahh, fuck it. Who am I shittin'?

I'm a pitiful site
And I ain't all that bright
I'm definitly not chisled from stone
I'm a cheat and a liar
No women's desire
I'll probably die cold and alone

But just give me a chance
Cause deep down inside
I swear I got a big heart of gold
I'm a monoganous man
No more one night stands
Come on, let me take you home

[CHORUS x4]
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Postby axedog on Sun Apr 15, 2007 6:51 pm

I know this thread has died off here but in a case of reincarnation how about this for a thought..

Elton John -madman across the water:

I can see very well
There's a boat on the reef with a broken back
And I can see it very well
There's a joke and I know it very well
It's one of those that I told you long ago
Take my word I'm a madman don't you know

Once a fool had a good part in the play
If it's so would I still be here today
It's quite peculiar in a funny sort of way
They think it's very funny everything I say
Get a load of him, he's so insane
You better get your coat dear
It looks like rain

We'll come again next Thursday afternoon
The In-laws hope they'll see you very soon
But is it in your conscience that you're after
Another glimpse of the madman across the water

I can see very well
There's a boat on the reef with a broken back
And I can see it very well
There's a joke and I know it very well
It's one of those that I told you long ago
Take my word I'm a madman don't you know

The ground's a long way down but I need more
Is the nightmare black
or are the windows painted
Will they come again next week
Can my mind really take it
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Postby Condor on Mon Apr 16, 2007 12:28 am

Stan Jones ~ Ghost Riders in the Sky

An old cowboy went ridin' out one dark and windy day
Upon a ridge he rested as he went along his way
When all at once a mighty herd of red-eyed cows he saw
Plowin' through the ragged skies, and up a cloudy draw

Their brands were still on fire, and their hooves were made of steel
Their horns were black and shiny and their hot breath he could feel
A bolt of fear went through him as they thundered through the sky
For he saw the riders comin' hard, and he heard their mournful cry

Ghost riders in the sky

Their faces gaunt, their eyes were blurred their shirts all soaked with sweat
They're ridin' hard to catch that herd, but they ain't caught 'em yet'
'Cause they've got to ride forever on that range up in the sky
On horses snorting fire, as they ride on, hear their cry

Ghost riders in the sky

As the riders loped on by him, he heard one call his name
"If you want to save your soul from hell a riding on our range
Then cowboy change your ways today, or with us you will ride
Tryin' to catch the devil's herd, across these endless skies"


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Postby Sombra on Wed Jun 13, 2007 4:45 pm

Necrogame reborns...

I love when a song has lyrics that really mean something to you. I'll post two songs that mean a lot to me right now.


SEPULTURA - City of Dis (DanteXXI 2006)

Symptoms of life, our disbelief
Punished for severed hope
Outcast in life for having an opinion of our own
Sometimes things have to be said
No matter what the cost we spend
Can't force tradition
It won't come from suffering
Won't be a victim
In this bloody system
Lost soul you'll burn for your believe

Cast in the city of dis
I know the world has a way to work out on it's own
Don't need the insanity
Faith must be earned
I can live, with myself
I have faith, in myself

Can't force your own ways of tradition
It won't come from the suffering of victims
Can't believe in this filthy bloody system
Fires won't burn our right to have opinions

I can live, with myself
I have faith, in myself



EKTOMORF - Fuel My Fire* (Outcast 2006)

I've got a word of thanks
that I'd like to say
for the way that I feel today.
Got stacks, got stacks
stacks of chips on my shoulder
in everything I do
cuz I made, I made
I made the mistake
the mistake of trusting you

Yeah, people like you just fuel my fire
Yeah, people like you just do
You liar
You liaaaaar

Yeah, my layers are thick
and I've got bad attitude.
Yeah that knife in my back
has fingerprints that belong to you.
Got a grudge, got a grudge
got a grudge that I'm holding
for as long as I like
cuz you lied, you lied
you lied to my face
and that's something that I can't forgive

Yeah, people like you just fuel my fire
People like you just burn
You liar
You liaaaaar

Yeah, people like you just fuel my fire
People like you just fuel my fire
Yeah, people like you just do
You liar
You liaaaaar


* Prodigy cover song.
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Postby Boris The Black on Thu Jun 14, 2007 2:02 pm

Girl Inside My Head Lyrics
» Blues Traveler

When all is said and done
I wish I needed no one
Never was up to me
Just something in her way that sets me free
It seems so easy
And yeah I try to pay attention
But there's only four things running through my mind

How hard will it be if she is nice to me?
How bad will it get if I let her get to know me?
Should she see the willing dog or should i be a jungle cat?
And most of all my god how does she make her eyes do that?
And i dont need another girl inside my head
Girl inside my head

Johnny be brave I say inside
As i won't take a bite from an apple that she gave me
But that's not what i'm after
Still all along my mother's voice singing "treat her like a lady"
And yeah i try to pay attention
But there's only four things running through my mind

(chorus repeats)

I'm not the only one to write her letters
It doesn't matter anyhow
The question isn't if, but...

(chorus repeats)
Come On! It's just a flesh wound!
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Postby DariusSongblade on Wed Sep 05, 2007 5:02 pm

The Llama Song

Here's a llama
There's a llama
And another little llama
Fuzzy llama
Funny llama
Llama llama
Duck

Llama llama
Cheesecake
Llama
Tablet
Brick
Potato
Llama
Llama llama
Mushroom
Llama
Llama llama
Duck

I was once a treehouse
I lived in a cake
But I never saw the way
The orange slayed the rake
I was only three years dead
But it told a tale
And now listen, little child
To the safety rail

Did you ever see a llama
Kiss a llama
On the llama
Llama's llama
Tastes of llama
Llama llama
Duck

Half a llama
Twice the llama
not a llama
Farmer
Llama
Llama in a car
Alarm a llama
Llama
Duck

Is THIS how it's told now?
Is it all so old?
Is it made of lemon juice?
Doorknob
Ankle
Cold
Now my song is getting thin
I've run out of luck
Time for me to retire now
And become a duck
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Postby Secret on Wed Sep 05, 2007 5:55 pm

Soul Meets Body


I want to live where soul meets body
And let the sun wrap its arms around me
And bathe my skin in water cool and cleansing
And feel, feel what its like to be new

Cause in my head there's a greyhound station
Where I send my thoughts to far off destinations
So they may have a chance of finding a place
where they're far more suited than here

I cannot guess what we'll discover
Between the dirt with our palms cut like shovels
But I know our filthy hand can wash one another's
And not one speck will remain

I do believe it's true
That there are roads left in both of our shoes
If the silence takes you
Then I hope it takes me too
So brown eyes I hold you near
Cause you're the only song I want to hear
A melody softly soaring through my atmosphere

Where soul meets body
Where soul meets body
Where soul meets body

I do believe it's true
That there are holes left in both of our shoes
If the silence takes you
Then I hope it takes me too
So brown eyes I hold you near
Cause you're the only song I want to hear
A melody softly soaring through my atmosphere
A melody softly soaring through my atmosphere
A melody softly soaring through my atmosphere
A melody softly soaring through my atmosphere

Death Cab For Cutie
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Postby Electra on Wed Sep 05, 2007 6:24 pm

DariusSongblade wrote:The Llama Song


Heh heh. I love the Llama Song! Makes me giggle every time.
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Postby Secret on Fri Sep 07, 2007 8:15 am

I was listening to Modest Mouse while tearing ass on the I-264 rat race marathon madness.

Modest Mouse - The World At Large Lyrics

Ice-age heat wave, can't complain.
If the world's at large, why should I remain?
Walked away to another plan.
Gonna find another place, maybe one I can stand.
I move on to another day,
to a whole new town with a whole new way.
Went to the porch to have a thought.
Got to the door and again, I couldn't stop.
You don't know where and you don't know when.
But you still got your words and you got your friends.
Walk along to another day.
Work a little harder, work another way.

Well uh-uh baby I ain't got no plan.
We'll float on maybe would you understand?
Gonna float on maybe would you understand?
Well float on maybe would you understand?

The days get shorter and the nights get cold.
I like the autumn but this place is getting old.
I pack up my belongings and I head for the coast.
It might not be a lot but I feel like I'm making the most.
The days get longer and the nights smell green.
I guess it's not surprising but it's spring and I should leave.

I like songs about drifters - books about the same.
They both seem to make me feel a little less insane.
Walked on off to another spot.
I still haven't gotten anywhere that I want.
Did I want love? Did I need to know?
Why does it always feel like I'm caught in an undertow?

The moths beat themselves to death against the lights.
Adding their breeze to the summer nights.
Outside, water like air was great.
I didn't know what I had that day.
Walk a little farther to another plan.
You said that you did, but you didn't understand.

I know that starting over is not what life's about.
But my thoughts were so loud I couldn't hear my mouth.
My thoughts were so loud I couldn't hear my mouth.
My thoughts were so loud.
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Postby DariusSongblade on Wed Sep 12, 2007 8:54 pm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lick_Me_in_the_Ass

... funny ... but ... is it real? lol
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Postby Secret on Thu Sep 13, 2007 7:40 am

DariusSongblade wrote:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lick_Me_in_the_Ass

... funny ... but ... is it real? lol

It's probably real, from what I know about Mozart. (The movie "Amadeus")
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Postby Dravek on Fri Sep 14, 2007 7:32 am

What is real? How do you define real? If you are talking about your senses, what you feel, taste, smell, or see, then all you're talking about are electrical signals interpreted by your brain.

BUCK CHERRY: CRAZY B*TCH
(censored for your reading pleasure)

Break me down, you got a lovely face
We're going to your place
And now you got to freak me out
Scream so loud, getting :shhh: laid
You want me to stay, but I got to make my way

Hey! You're a crazy b*tch
But you :shock: so good, I'm on top of it
When I dream, I'm doing you all night
Scratches all down my back to keep me right on

Hey! You're a crazy b*tch
But you :shock: so good, I'm on top of it
When I dream, I'm doing you all night
Scratches all down my back to keep me right on

Take it off, the paper is your game
You jump in bed with fame
Another one night paid in full, uh
You're so fine, it won't be a loss
Cashing in the rocks, just to get you face to face

Hey! You're a crazy b*tch
But you :shock: so good, I'm on top of it
When I dream, I'm doing you all night
Scratches all down my back to keep me right on

Get the video, :shock: you so good
Get the video, :shock: you so good
Crazy b*tch (3x)

Hey! You're a crazy b*tch
But you :shock: so good, I'm on top of it
When I dream, I'm doing you all night
Scratches all down my back to keep me right on

Hey! You're a crazy b*tch
But you :shock: so good, I'm on top of it
When I dream, I'm doing you all night
Scratches all down my back, come on

Baby girl, You want it all
To be a star you'll have to go down
Take it off, No need to talk
You're crazy but I like the way you :shock: me

Hey! You're a crazy b*tch
But you :shock: so good, I'm on top of it
When I dream, I'm doing you all night
Scratches all down my back to keep me right on

Hey! You're a crazy b*tch
But you :shock: so good, I'm on top of it
When I dream, I'm doing you all night
Scratches all down my back to keep me right on
You keep me right on

You're crazy but I like the way you :shock: me
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and now for something completely different...

Postby MoJo on Sat Sep 15, 2007 9:46 pm

Love him or hate him - Trent Reznor (Nine Inch Nails) has some of the most personal, heart-felt lyrics I've ever seen in poetry of any era. These lyrics are kind of depressing, but most of us have been there. They make me feel better knowing someone else has too.

Something I Can Never Have

i still recall the taste of your tears
echoing your voice just like the ringing in my ears
my favorite dreams of you still wash ashore
scraping through my head 'till i don't want to sleep anymore

come on tell me
make this all go away
you make this all go away
i'm down to just one thing
and i'm starting to scare myself
make this all go away
you make this all go way
i just want something
i just want something i can never have

you always were the one to show me how
back then i couldn't do the things that i can do now
this thing is slowly taking me apart
grey would be the color if i had a heart

i just want something i can never have

in this place it seems like such a shame
though it all looks different now, i know it's still the same
everywhere i look you're all i see
just a fading f***ing reminder of who i used to be

come on tell me
make this all go away
you make this all go away
i'm down to just one thing
and i'm starting to scare myself
make this all go away
you make this all go way

i just want something
i just want something i can never have

*(the following is not included in the album version of the song but included in the liner notes of the album and anywhere you look for the official lyrics)

think i know what you meant
that night on my bed
still picking at this scab
i wish you were dead
you sweat and perry ellis
just stains on my sheets
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Postby Secret on Thu Sep 20, 2007 7:59 am

Palads--Under Byen

Paladset er frosset til det inderste af stjerne
perle is
Vinduerne er dækket af rim og remser
Enhver der våger sig ud bliver kørt over 3 gange

Og når frem pakket med glemsel
Og når frem mere halve end hele
Og ved ikke hvorfor de kom

Og under tunge dyner drømmes om alskens instekter
Om klæbrige klistrede knitrende vinger
Om ikke at skulle holde ud
Insert road blocks to HEAVEN ...
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Postby Ram on Thu Sep 20, 2007 5:17 pm

Schadenfreude

GARY COLEMAN:
Right now you are down and out and feeling really crappy

NICKY:
I'll say.

GARY COLEMAN:
And when I see how sad you are
It sort of makes me...
Happy!

NICKY:
Happy?!

GARY COLEMAN:
Sorry, Nicky, human nature-
Nothing I can do!
It's...
Schadenfreude!
Making me feel glad that I'm not you.

NICKY:
Well that's not very nice, Gary!

GARY COLEMAN:
I didn't say it was nice! But everybody does it!

D'ja ever clap when a waitress falls and drops a tray of glasses?

NICKY:
Yeah...

GARY COLEMAN:
And ain't it fun to watch figure skaters falling on their asses?

NICKY:
Sure!

GARY COLEMAN:
And don'tcha feel all warm and cozy,
Watching people out in the rain!

NICKY:
You bet!

GARY COLEMAN:
That's...

GARY AND NICKY:
Schadenfreude!

GARY COLEMAN:
People taking pleasure in your pain!

NICKY:
Oh, Schadenfreude, huh?
What's that, some kinda Nazi word?

GARY COLEMAN:
Yup! It's German for "happiness at the misfortune of others!"

NICKY:
"Happiness at the misfortune of others." That is German!

Watching a vegetarian being told she just ate chicken

GARY COLEMAN:
Or watching a frat boy realize just what he put his dick in!

NICKY:
Being on the elevator when somebody shouts "Hold the door!"

GARY AND NICKY:
"No!!!"
Schadenfreude!

GARY COLEMAN:
"Fuck you lady, that's what stairs are for!"

NICKY:
Ooh, how about...
Straight-A students getting Bs?

GARY COLEMAN:
Exes getting STDs!

NICKY:
Waking doormen from their naps!

GARY COLEMAN:
Watching tourists reading maps!

NICKY:
Football players getting tackled!

GARY COLEMAN:
CEOs getting shackled!

NICKY:
Watching actors never reach

GARY AND NICKY:
The ending of their oscar speech!
Schadenfreude!
Schadenfreude!
Schadenfreude!
Schadenfreude!

GARY COLEMAN:
The world needs people like you and me who've been knocked around by fate.
'Cause when people see us, they don't want to be us, and that makes them feel great.

NICKY:
Sure!
We provide a vital service to society!

GARY AND NICKY:
You and me!
Schadenfreude!
Making the world a better place...
Making the world a better place...
Making the world a better place...
To be!

GARY COLEMAN:
S-C-H-A-D-E-N-F-R-E-U-D-E!
25 rounds, 71 :dragon:
Overall Avg: 2.84 DK / Round | Last 3 Avg: 4.00 DK / Round | Wins: 2
Physucks :D
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